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DG104: Your body tells you what it needs - Interview with Dr. Barbara Bryce

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In this episode, I talk to veterinarian and intuitive life and business coach Dr. Barbara Bryce about sensitive perception, intuitive understanding of our needs and the connection between our thoughts and gut health.

We also talk about this:
  • How the body tolerates even "unhealthy" food
  • How eating meat is compatible with spirituality
  • How certain foods affect the mind
  • How to nourish body, mind and soul


Julia: I am delighted to have the lovely Barbara Bryce as my guest today. Welcome Barbara and thank you for taking the time.
Barbara: Thank you so much, Julia, for having me.
Julia: We have a number of topics for today. First of all, you could tell us a bit about yourself. For example, you also have a doctorate. Where does that come from?
Barbara: I'm a Dr. med. vet., which means I'm a veterinarian. That's also my background. I got fully involved in veterinary medicine, mainly treating large animals, given my height of 1.50 meters. That's how it started.
After a while, I realized that I wanted to get to know other things. I added an MBA and eMBA. I then went into industry for a while and sold diagnostics as a product manager.
I now have three kids, work as a vet and as an intuitive life and business coach. I am very happy with this combination.
Julia: How did you come to become an intuitive coach? How did that come about?

Sensitive Perception

Barbara: It was like a kick in the ass. When my third child was born, I was given notice during maternity leave. That's when I realized: Oh, wow. Now it's going to be difficult to work as a vet again, with all these duties. Night duty, weekend duty, three kids at home ... You could say I had a crisis. I didn't know how, I had to reorganize myself and find out what I wanted and what was available.
I'd often had a connection to sensitivity and perception before - I just wasn't aware of it. That interested me. It wasn't this super-esoteric corner. That rather repelled me. But the knowledge that there is more than this 3D, physically measurable world.
I came across a course with Bahar Yilmaz and Jeffrey Kastenmüller by chance. They offered a training course. It was about sensitivity and perception. It just really appealed to me. I jumped straight into it, you could say. But always with the ulterior motive: Yes, yes, I'm only doing this for myself. I'll give it a try. That interests me.
That went on for six months. After that, it was clear that there was no turning back. Channels and doors and knowledge and skills were awakened - or reawakened - that I could no longer close and didn't want to. I then set out on this path and offered coaching right from the start, initially mainly aura readings. Now I've been doing it for almost three years.

Julia: That is something that is often not so tangible for someone who has never come into contact with it before. Does "sensitive" mean that you see things that perhaps not everyone sees? Or how should we think of it? Can anyone do it? Is it something you can simply learn?

Barbara: "Sensitive" is a somewhat difficult term. Sometimes you get pushed into this hypersensitive, sensitive corner. That's not the same thing for me. For me, "sensitive" is like a sixth sense. It can be seeing, it can be hearing, it can be tasting, smelling, something or even knowing.
I can give you an example: If you're in a room with a lot of people and another person enters the room, you may perceive how that person is feeling. This can sometimes tip the mood a little in one direction or another. I think we've all felt or experienced that at some point. That's actually sensitivity. It goes in that direction.

Julia: Can you help people? When you say aura readings or intuitive coaching in general, can you see things that the person you're coaching can't see themselves?

Barbara: Yes ... It's like a different perspective on the person. The aura field is like an electromagnetic shell that we all wear. Another example that also goes in this direction: when people have been arguing and you walk into the room, there is "thick air". That is when this field "resonates".
An aura reading is actually about seeing people as a whole, from a different perspective. I now see colors and translate them with the corresponding themes or things that resonate.

Julia: Is that also possible via Zoom, for example, or does someone have to be with you?

Barbara: It works really well via Zoom.

Julia: What I find exciting about you is that you have a combination of conventional medicine and science. You also work as a vet. You can't be put in a "weirdo corner": "She doesn't know anything about science anyway." How can you combine these two worlds - I'll call it that, because everything is actually connected anyway? How can you combine them?

Barbara: That was a learning process. Of course, it was originally very top-heavy. Studying was very much just hammering things in and understanding the connections. I was a very good student and that also defined me. When that was "taken away from me", I was left with nothing and had to sort it out for myself. The other things could only grow once I had to let go of the top-heavy things.
And then I put the doctor off for a long time. Now, in the last two years, I've realized: No, that makes mealso out. That isalso part of my life and my experience. Then it becomes round. Then I can integrate everything into my work, whether here or as a vet. It has become a bit holistic.

Julia: A completely different question: do animals also have an aura?

Barbara: Yes, although I have never ... The Animal communication is much more direct. I don't have to read the aura. That's not quick.

Julia: So you can communicate with them too?

Barbara: I think I do in a certain way, but I don't want to presume to do animal communication. I also have a dog and he has been with me from the beginning.

Julia: As a vet, you also have a bit of a ... I think it's similar at the beginning. Is it the same course at the beginning?

Barbara: Yes, we spent the first year together. But that's changed now.

Julia: What would you say: how much can we perhaps support our physical health via the emotional, spiritual level? The background to the question is that, of course, I always have customers who say: "I'm doing everything right. I eat healthily. I take my probiotics and do everything you say, Julia, and I still don't feel any better." Are there perhaps other things that you should be aware of, especially when it comes to gut health? I think gut health is really something quite complex.

Thoughts also have an effect on the gut



Barbara: Yes. So, there are a lot of factors that interact. There are other experts who are better at this. These thoughts, the things that also influence the gut, and that the gut also has its own nervous system, and that you also take that into account and know: Hey, this is a huge thing! That makes up a lot of us.
I'm also a movement and nature person. That's why I love animals. I need that, and it nourishes me in a different way to food. You also have to be aware that there's more to it than food composition or calorie counting or whatnot. That other factors also nourish us and make us healthy.

Julia: We had already said in the previous interview that food nourishes us and ultimately also has a vibration, an energy. How important do you think the quality of food is? For example, do I eat organic or not? Do I eat something that has been flown in from further away or not? How do you see that?

Barbara: I think that the food itself also has a vibration. It also has its own vibration. Depending on what - especially with vegetables and fruit - when you hold it in your hand, you can feel the difference. I think you can let yourself be guided a little and perhaps not primarily look at the price, but rather: I might take less, but I take what appeals to me and "turns me on" at that moment. I think it's very important.
Sometimes I'm shocked at how carelessly people eat things that are really ... That doesn't mean that we don't even eat McDonald's as a family, but simply in masses. And then realize: Okay, that's it again.

Julia: I'm actually firmly convinced that if you only eat convenience food or "unhealthy" things - i.e. industrial food - it does something to us, including in terms of our thinking, our feelings and our emotions.

Barbara: Yes, I think so. It simply supports us more when it is in a good vibration. There are people who can switch that themselves. They can actually eat junk and still stay healthy. It simply requires energy from another side. So I think you're doing yourself some good if you eat it with pleasure. You talk a lot about that. There are so many factors. Allowing yourself to indulge and then doing so with pleasure and in company and taking the time to eat. All these little things that make you healthy and keep you healthy.

Julia: In other words, you would say that if you can do it, then it's quite possible to influence your vibration and your health through spiritual channels. Even if you eat things that are "not healthy".

Barbara: Yes.

Julia: Okay.

Barbara: If that's in balance, then it helps to raise the vibration of the other things as well. Of course it's nicer when you can eat healthy things, but sometimes there are situations where it's just more challenging to find that. And then not to feel bad somehow if you eat it anyway, but to say: hey, I'll balance it out again.

Julia: I also think that when someone is really in balance and at peace with themselves, they feel like eating other foods. I think it's probably also to some extent the case that someone who constantly craves potato chips and sweets and McDonald's probably has a different basic vibration anyway.

The body communicates what it lacks



Barbara: What sometimes happens is that yourbody already tells you what's missing right now. For example, it's the saltwhen you sweat so much. Then you realize: Ah, okay, I have salt cravings.

Julia: I firmly believe that our body is actually able to signal to us what it needs. In the form of: This is what I'm craving now. Now I really want strawberries, for example, and the other day I don't feel like it.
We once had a girl as a customer - well, she was still quite small, I think she came to us when she was about two years old. When she was two, she had such food intolerances that she could hardly eat anything at all. She was given acid blockers or something like that as a baby and as a result ... Anyway, with her mother's support, we then helped her to build up her microbiome and so on. Then she was able to eat more and more things. It was actually the case that the child could pick up an apple in the supermarket, for example, and say: "Mommy, today this is fine." So, she could actually just pick up the food and say: "I can eat this today." Sometimes she would also say, "Mommy, no, I can't do that. I don't want that."

We often work with glutamine to build up the intestinal mucosa. It's a white powder. It's not exactly something a child loves. There were days - as the mother told us - when the little one ate spoonfuls of this powder. She just knew: I need this today. I found that fascinating.

That shows that if you are in tune with your intuition, or whatever you want to call it, then you already know what you need.
Barbara: Yes, that's a great example, because you mentioned these senses at the beginning. It's still so open with children. Two is brilliant, of course. You can already speak, but you're still super connected. That's exactly it. We actually all still have that in us, it's just that with all the upbringing and school and structures and beliefs, it gets buried a bit.
I believe that this year in particular, we are called upon to go back and clear it out a little, unpack it and strengthen it again.

Eating meat and spirituality



Julia: One topic that has come up again and again recently is the subject of "meat eating: yes or no?" Especially from so-called spiritual circles, you often hear: "Well, if you're spiritual, if you're loving, you don't eat animal-based food. They let animals live." How do you see this issue from your point of view?

Barbara: It was a process for me too. I didn't eat meat for a year. As I'm a vet, of course, and treat the animals myself, I see a lot. I look into the stables and see how things are going there. And I realize that animals are a cultural asset here in Switzerland. The husbandry is amazingly good. They are allowed out on the Alps, especially in summer. Switzerland would look different if we didn't have animals. We would probably never have developed into the Switzerland we are now.
I eat meat and I'm still intuitive. It's just important to me to be mindful and not to eat mountains of cheap meat, but to pay attention to it: Where does the meat come from? And then to enjoy it. I'm also a person who really eats nose-to-tail. I like everything.
I also have a background: one grandfather was in Scotland and had a butcher's shop. The other was in the Upper Engadine and also had a farm, so a few cows. I think that's very grounding and it also makes us human.
I am aware of these efforts from certain spiritual circles to stop doing this and to spare suffering. I don't look at animal husbandry in other countries, but I can say Swiss meat, pasture-raised beef, natural beef, organic, I don't know, I can support that.

Julia: So you're saying that what's important is simply the quality, the way the animals are kept, and if that's true, then there's nothing to stop you from eating animal-based foods and still being spiritual.

Nutrition is not a religion



Barbara: Yes, from my point of view. I think everyone has to decide that for themselves. There's also the whole nutrition thing.

Julia: I think that's an important point. You might have phases in your life where you say: I don't feel like eating meat or animal products. Or: I would like to give it a try. Or: I realize that I want to detox, for example. A plant-based Nutrition definitely has a good detoxifying effect. This can certainly be a phase in which you want and need this and where it is also good for you.
Nutrition is often turned into a kind of religion. I don't think it's a religion, but you can definitely say: "I'm going vegan for six months" and then suddenly realize: "Oh, I'm craving eggs now." Or "I'd like a piece of meat again." Then it's important that you don't say in your head: "Ah, no. I'm vegan now. I'm not allowed to do that." Instead, you should perhaps listen to your body's signals and recognize: "Aha, I had a phase when I didn't need it. Now there's another phase where I need it."
I believe that nutrition really is something that you can simply look at every now and then and say: "Ah, now I need it differently." Or even on a daily basis: I need this today and I need that tomorrow. There's nothing wrong with saying: "I don't eat any animal products five days a week, but I do at the weekend." I think it's just important not to be so set in your ways and not to be so dogmatic.
The issue is often that people want to make you feel guilty if you eat animals. This image: I'm a better person if I don't eat animals. I think it's just important for everyone to be honest with themselves and to work things out for themselves: What's right for me?

Barbara: Yes. For me, it becomes difficult when you judge others for their behavior. So, it's important to keep to yourself and look after yourself and let others do the same. During the training - I just remembered this - we had three basic rules to sharpen our senses or to have these channels clearer. That was: cut out sugar, dairy products and wheat. So, three white things.
Three white foods: sugar, dairy and wheat

Julia: Okay.

Barbara: That was easy to remember. I found that exciting because I was someone who drank a lot of milk. I've really cut that out now. That really did something. It also changed me physically in some way. And it's true: Your thinking becomes clearer. That helped me a lot. I think these are things that you can try out and see for yourself: Is this good for me or not?

Julia: Do you remember the reason? Or can you think of a possible reason for leaving these three things out?

Barbara: In the case of dairy products, it was clear that this comes a bit from TCM: the mucilage. Sugar too. It somehow makes you - can you say that? - a bit stupid.

Julia: Yes. You can say anything. You can say anything in my podcast.

Barbara: Yes, it's just this mass-controlled thing. When you observe where sugar is in it and how you can perhaps really control it a little so that people keep the craving for these sweet things. There are a few aha moments.

Wheat was, I think, also because of gluten.

Julia: Interesting. I always say that sugar, milk and wheat are the things that I recommend anyone with intestinal problems to avoid at all costs, because they can actually have an effect on the brain. Milk in particular also contains substances that can actually leave you feeling foggy in the head, as can gliadin in wheat. That's in there too. Not only gluten, but also gliadin.
Milk contains casein on the one hand, but I think there is something else that can also have an effect that is somewhat addictive and actually has an effect on our brain.
Sugar is also something that is naturally addictive on the one hand, but can also promote inflammation in the body on the other. I think the gut in particular is the seat of intuition, as they say. Our gut. After all, that's where our emotions and intuition are located.

We are body, mind and soul



That's why I see a lot of connections between mental clarity and gut health, for example. I have just received feedback from another customer who said that she can suddenly think clearly again. After a relatively short time. That makes me so happy that I just think: okay, there really is a connection. The physical can influence the mental and the mental can influence the physical. I think there really is an interaction. Do you see it that way too?

Barbara: Absolutely. That's why I find it difficult if you only pay attention to one and push the other away. It's important to see that. We are body, mind and soul.

Julia: Yes.

Barbara: And also to nourish and respect all parts and to recognize that. Sometimes you just want to float and get out of this body and then at the same time realize: "I was given this body. How great is that? I can now live and feel and eat and drink and all these things." Yes, that is a gift. And then to treat and respect it as such. That's still important to me.

Julia: I also think that if we don't treat our body the way it actually needs to be treated, it can stop us from doing certain things. If I'm constantly tired or in constant pain, then I won't do certain things at all. Then I won't say: I'm going on a mountain hike with my family if I'm not feeling well. You miss out on so much if you're not mobile or if you don't show a certain amount of courage.
You also mentioned the current times earlier. We are still living in the so-called "corona crisis" as we record this. I think it's particularly important that we are awake, mentally fit and don't fall into this fear. Of course, our bodies can support us in this.
You can learn to listen to your body again
Barbara: Yes, it's a great tool. It sends you signals when it's good enough and doesn't drift in the wrong direction. Sometimes you fall into this mode of judging your body or unpacking these negative things, but it's really about saying: "Hey, thanks for the tip. I'll take a look." Yes, maybe to see it that way too.

Julia: So, what I take away from our conversation is that we can do a lot if we have a positive attitude in terms of our thoughts and energy. You can make up for a lot, but the bottom line is that it's important to take care of the body too. This holistic approach and taking everything into account if we want to feel really well. Can you put it like that?

Barbara: Yes, absolutely. It really is: exercise, nutrition, breathing, drinking, meditating - whatever. Nourishing everything anyway. That's important to me, yes.

"Intuitive Life and Business Sparks"



Julia: Finally, would you like to tell us how people can work with you? Perhaps also which people you enjoy working with the most or where you are particularly good at helping?

Barbara: Yes, very much so. I mainly work online. I work about two thirds online and one third offline. The clients who benefit most from my coaching are people who realize: "Oh, things can't go on like this right now. I already have ideas for new approaches. I'm lacking a bit of courage. I'd like to know a bit more about what's inside me, where I can start." Yes, to be inspired a little or to be taken by the hand. I don't go ahead, but I can say: "Look, there's a cool way. Would you like to try it out? There may still be a few stumbling blocks, but we'll overcome them. I'm with you."

I have an introductory meeting. I call it the "intuitive spark". It's 30 minutes with me, just to get an overview. I also often do aura readings there. Just to try it out and see if it suits you.

Julia: Is that free of charge?

Barbara: It's free of charge.

Julia: Anyone can simply get a "spark" from you without any risk and see if it fits. Where can people find you? What is the name of your website?

Barbara: My website is called like me. It's called barbarabryce.com. You can find everything else there. It's in English and German. Just click on the flag and then you have the appropriate language.

Julia: Perfect. You also have a podcast. I've already been a guest there. It's actually in English, but I think it's easy to understand. What is the name of your podcast?

Barbara: It's called "Intuitive Life and Business Sparks"

Julia: Is there anything else at the end that you would like to share with my listeners or that we may have forgotten to mention in our conversation?

Barbara: What I would like to say right now is to slow down a little, sit back and take a deep breath. To be happy about the things that are happening right now and to see: Okay, we're moving on and it's going to be okay. Don't let yourself be thrown off balance by whatever is or was or is coming.

Julia: Have confidence. Nice. Dear Barbara, thank you very much for the lovely conversation.

Barbara: Thank you, dear Julia.

Julia: I'm glad that we're in contact.

Barbara: Yes, I feel the same way. Thank you very much.

Julia: See you soon, bye!

Website of Dr. Barbara Bryce
https://barbarabryce.com/

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