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DG074: What are the connections between intestines and money? Interview with Uta Nimsgarn

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UtaNimsgarn originally comes from the private banking sector, where she advised wealthy private clients on their investments for over 20 years. She has also studied spirituality, trained in psychological astrology and completed further training in coaching and NLP. Today she is a mentor and accompanies women on their way to a new money awareness.
We talk about the following topics, among others:
  • Where does Uta see a connection between the topics of "gut" and "money"?
  • What similar stories and beliefs we have about money and nutrition
  • How much our environmentshapes both the way we deal with food and the way we deal with money
  • The importance ofmindset in our lives
  • Why themindset alone does not bring results, it needs to be followed by action
  • Why it's always worth investing money in your health, even if you don't have a lot of money


I am very pleased to have the lovely UtaNimsgarn as my guest. Hello Uta, nice to have you here.
Uta: Hello Julia and hello to everyone listening. I'm delighted to be here with you.

Yes, thatwas really overdue. We've known each other for quite a while now and always talk about such great things, so I thought it would be nice to invite you to the podcast. The reason for this interview is that weonce talked aboutttthat there are definitely parallels between money, attitude and mindset,mindset and nutrition. That's why I took this as an opportunity to talk to you about it.
Perhaps a very direct question: where do you see a connection between the topics"gut" and"money"?

Uta: After we talked about it last time, I thought about it for a long time.Yes, I think there are some connections.The gut processes food, andwe couldn't exist without our gut, because it's of little use if we eat and it 's not processed. In the same way, money is actually the engine thatkeeps thingsgoing. As long as we as a society have agreed on money as a means of payment - or this compound interest system - money will always be the engine that keeps many things in motion.
Some people say:"Yes, but you don't necessarily needmoney " - no, but we have agreed on it. And I can see the connection between intestines and money. They are both - I'll call it'neutral' now. They both work - if we use them correctly, if we'put itinat the top', if we do the right thing for the money, then the right thing will come out at the back.

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I also became aware of another connection: a few weeks ago we had a visit from two really nice,sweet,great girls from Ireland, and I realized once again how strongly our diet, how strongly what we eat is rooted in us, rooted in our family. It's very similar with money data-contrast="auto">. These beliefs that we have in our family: how we eat, what is healthy, how we feed ourselves...
This is so deeply and unconsciously ingrained, and I also see astrong connection to money, because we also adoptedour views on money as children without questioning them. We don't even realize that this is just our view of it. Neither on money nor onnutrition in our family... Yes, then you're fat or"everyone in our family has flatulence" or"we all can't tolerate milk".These are allbeliefs that we have simply adopted, andI am surethatour bodiesreact to them. However, these beliefs are completely unconscious. I see so many connections here with the topic of money.

Exactly, it's calledsst is also simply"Yes, we were just born on the wrong side of town now" othe"It's always been like that"or"we have always worked hard to survive".

Uta: Yes.And also what we think about rich people or what we think about work itself,for example,that we have to do a lot to earn money. This saying alone"'self-employed' comes from 'self' and 'constantly'" always makes me roll my eyes.
Many people also think that wejust do online business and don't have to do anything and earn 5 million, which also makes me roll my eyes. But it's these age-old beliefs that we don't even know about oraren 't aware ofis that they arejust thoughts and not the truth.I think this playsasimilarrolewith foodas it does with money.

It is said again and again"Yes, it's genetic for me"or"it runs in the family" and thenI ask:"What exactly runs in the family? Is it really genetic?, or did you learn how to eat from your family?" If your parents had high cholesterol because they had an unfavorable diet and you 'inherited' these unfavorable eating habits, then suddenly it's no longer 'genetic' but it's actually simply a family habit that you have a high cholesterol level not because it is because it is congenital, but simply because you have similar eating habits to thosealsoalreadyyour parents had.

Uta: What I also find interesting is that when it comes to money or life in general, people say you should look at the five people you deal with most often, then you'll earn roughly the same as them. And it's the same with food.
I findthatvery exciting, because we eat- mostly -the way the people around us eat. And here, too, we often lackreflection. Is that even the way thatfor me best for me? In terms of food as well as money. Is the way people talk and think about money even the wayI want to think and talk about it?

"Mindset alone isindeedof great importancebut it is not decisive for everything"


Would you say, whether I am rich or poor, that is not fate, butagainst ityou can also activelyetdo something about it? If someonein the hamster wheelis trapped and says,"Yes, that's how it is with usjust we just don't have much money" andin a way already resigned to it. Would you say that there are things you can do in terms of attitude without having to look for a new job right now?? That can the situation can improve?

Uta: Yes.What I find very interesting is that if youlook at the fates ofdifferent people, there are some who have experienced terrible things and are broken by them.And then there are otherswho had a similar fate, but rose like a phoenix from the ashes. So I believe that everyonehas the opportunityto live the life they want ifthey are prepared to pay the price. And this price has to do with becoming more authentic, becoming more honest with ourselves, daring to take our own wishes and desires seriously and thenseeing them:How can I get there step by step?
For me,this always starts with themindset. Themindset - a word that is now on everyone's lips - is our thoughts, our habits, the way we see the world, the glasses we wear. And our thoughts arise from this. From our thoughts come our decisions, and from our decisions come our actions, and from our actions come our results.
But the beginning is always our thoughts, and it starts with the thought of whether I think something is possible or not.If mymindset is such that I don't think it's possible that Icould have a healthy body, orthat Icouldearn a lot of money or have this particular life because it's ingrained in me that it's not possiblefor me, then that will influence my decisions, and then that will end up influencing my results.
If mymindset is:"I have no idea how to do this", then I won't find a way. But if my mindset is:"Yes, ok, I don'tknow how to do it yet, but I'm sure I'll find a way to find out how to do it, how to try it out, how to doit... I'm sure something will come of it."Then this difference in thinking alone will lead to my results being different afterwards,because then I can make different decisions.
Then I might be prepared to give up sugar for a while orto pursueotherideasin my financial decisions, to simply try something out and see:How can I deal with this? And I end up with different results because Isimply do things differently.
One thing is very importanthere:mindset alone isvery important, but it is not decisive for everything.Because if I don't make any decisionsafterwards, if I don't do anything, nothing will come of it. Themindset is just the beginning, the basis. The crucial thing is to then do something, make decisions andtake action. It doesn't matter whether it's for ahealthy diet oragood body or for a happier Life is.


moneyor health?


Yes, that's what I always say. When it comes to nutrition, it's always important to knowwhy I'm doing it and also to observe how you talk to yourself before you then"into action" into action.
What makes mesometimesis when someone doesn't have enough moneyand perhaps has some kind of existential fear. If you don't have any money, then most people feel anxious. arises: "Wow can I live on at all?","Wow can I pay my bills?","LAm I on the street?sse?"
Is it insuch a is it even possible to look after your health in such a struggle for survival? It may sound brutal, but I think if you really don't have any money, it's difficult to look after your health. How would you see it?

Uta: I would ask the question differently. I would ask: Isn't itpreciselythen extremely important,that that I take care of my health? Because if I'm ill, I have no chance of changing anything at all.We've probably all experienced pain at some point. Irecentlyhadpain in my arm.And then I feel that my thoughts are always revolving around this pain. It's very difficult toget out of it.That's why I believe that the most important thing is always good health, that we have toinvest in our health. I have been buying organic products andhealthy food for over 30 years or evenlonger data-contrast="auto">.There were also times in my lifewhen I had little money, butbut I always spent money. Then I always had the discussions with others:"Well, Idon't have the money for that" and"That's so expensive, organic and good food and paying attention to it."
And my calculation was different. For me, money is appreciation, and even if I don't have a lot of money, I can do with it,that I have, I can appreciate what I buy with that money.
I have decided to havea simple cell phone, not to have a car, to only have a very cheap TV, not to go on vacation, but to invest this money in food. It's simple ... I can decide: Where do I set my priorities? And for me, health is the top priority,because without it everything is nothing.
Even if I have a lot of money but am ill, that's not so sexy either. The best thing is to be rich and healthy.We feel so much better mentally when we are healthy, when we feel good in our bodies.One of thebig misconceptions about the law of attraction is that we should always imagine it. But the language that the law of attraction'speaks' is feelings. It's about emotion. And the better we feel, the easier it is for money to come into our lives. It goes hand in hand.
Only, if my body doesn't work, then I don't feel good and then it's much, much more difficult - especiallywhen I don't have a lot of money - to attract more money into my life or earn more money than if Ifeel physically well and can then do the things thatIknoware necessary to earn more money so that I can benefit from it. can live.
I would rather do without other things andfocus on putting my health first. And then the money will come in at the end. I'm quite sure of that.

The "law of attraction"


Could you perhaps explain the law of attractionin more detail explain? I can imagine that your listeners are familiar with it, but I'm not sure about my listeners, whether everyone really knows so wellsswhat"Law of Attraction" actually meansst.

Uta: From my point of view, it means thatwe always resonate and vibrate with things that vibrate like us. By that I mean physical vibrationsor frequencies. One of ourbiggesttransmitters is our heart - you can measure thatwith electrical fields.
Every thing has its own vibration and through the vibration we have, we resonate with these things.I believe that we then consciously experience the things that we resonatewith.And we don't even notice the other things. It's as if we tune in to 99.8 on the radio and pop music comes on, then we don't realize that classical music is playing on 100.5. But it's on at the same time. We're only tuned to 99.8 with pop music and that's roughly how Iwould describe the law of attraction. In otherwords, the better we feel, the better our lives will be.
Every single decision we make, we actually only make for one reason, namely because we believe we will feel better afterwards. We want more money because we believe we will feel better. We want to be healthy because we think we will feel better. Wewant a relationship,because we think we'll feel better. We go on vacation because we think we feel better then. We want to send our children to a good school because then we feel better and the child is better off. So, hei sstthis feeling better is actually a basic need ofall people. And it is so important to me that we put this feeling of being better first. It has nothing to do with selfishness.
It comes very much from the heart, so that we feel really good. And that's a bit different for everyone. What makes one person happy, what makes so many men happy, for example, when they are allowed to walk through the DIY store, that wouldn't be something thatmy happiness level up. And the important thing is toask yourself:what is it that makes me happy? And then build on that.


A slightly different explanation.


Yes, great. I think it's definitely good to look into the subject.Because the way you've described it now, you can see it very, very well canthat feeling good is important, to be able to feel good. Inice that you also said that nutrition and health belong in the first place.enthen ultimately this helps usyeshelps us to feel good about ourselves.
And I also think it's important not to stop there and say:"Well, now I'm eating healthily and everything is fine now"but that you thenonly the strength toother areas in lifeto look at and see, how can I perhaps get to the next level??


Does money make you happy?


In my opinion, money comes into play relatively quickly because - as you said at the beginning - our society is structured in such a way thatwe pay forwhat we want to have so that we can feel good about ourselves -like for example thevacation -also need money. Now I can say: "II drive to the next federal state by car and enjoyssmy vacation there" and yet the fact is that you might want to spend money carefree and treat yourself to the things that make you happy. I find it really exciting to look at it from the other side, that it comes from the inside.That meansif I already feel good now,I also the things onthat make me happy.

Uta: And then I'd like toclear up abig misunderstanding: the amount of money I have doesn't necessarily have anything to do with my happiness.It's aboutbeing fulfilled.
For many years, I advised very wealthy private clients on their investments. If someone hasoneorfive million, they may be rich for many people.A million is a lot of money, but itdoesn't automatically mean that the person is happy and fulfilled and that they feel really rich. People often think that if you have that much money, you'll be happy. That doesn't go hand in hand.
Of course, we need a certain amount of money to be able to live.If youarejust at thesubsistence level , it is already very difficult. But if our basic needs are covered, if we can do the things that are important to us, then the amount of money doesn't necessarily play a role, but rather our fulfillment.
For me, financial freedom means being able to do what I would like to do. Forone data-contrast="auto"> it could be, jetting aroundin a private jet - you need a bit more money for that - and for someone else it could be hiking in the Black Forest with a backpack. And for someone else it could be living in Mallorca and for someone else it could be being able to go out for coffee every morning.
So, the things that make me happy can cost different amounts of money, but it's about what is it thatI really want? What would I like to experience in this life, and then of course it's much easier tostart with a healthy body in order to live a fulfilled life. As I said, not everyone wants a private jet. Well, I don't have the desire at the moment, butI'm sure there are people who do, and then it's completely okay. To look for yourself: What is it that makes my heart sing? What makes my life happy. Andspend spend.


Your vision


That might even be a good exercise for our listeners to do: Simply take a piece of paper and a pentakeand write it down: What makes me happy? What do I need tobe happy? It could be the daily coffee in my favorite caféfor example. Or I like to paint, or it can also be professional things: I like speaking in front of people, or whatever. That you really take a moment and write it down: What makes me happy?

Uta: Yes, and then to do that, to write ato-do list, so to speak, with all the things that make you happy. A wonderful exercise that I often give my clients is to describe their perfect day. Recently, we took it to the next level. We had a really crazy perfect day, really exaggerated: Imagine what would happen if you had a private plane? What would your life be like if moneyno play a role? If everything was there, how would you live?
And then you can also take out the time factor. You can say: "Well, in the morning I'd like to have breakfast in Ibiza and then in the evening I'd like to watch something at the Metropolitan Opera." Just to think about what I would like to do. And maybe I just want to sit on my balcony and watch the gardener weeding the garden.
So, everyone should dreamreallybigfor onceand let the shy deer of our inner desires out and think: "What would actually be where my heart is?"

Exactly. What would you recommend to someone who says, "I would like to afford organic food"?. II would like to go for a massage once a week. I would all but I just can't afford it. I hear that a lot. What would you say? What would be the first concrete step someone could take?

Uta: My advice would be to goonce a month.month massage once a month if you can't do it weekly. When it comes to nutrition - but this is my personal experience - if you shop consciously and maybe don't buy everything in the supermarket, butgo to the market and buy fresh, you can get very, very good things for little money. And especially if you buy regional and seasonal produce. In my experience, itcosts far less than many people think.

Whatis the next best thought I can think of right now?


The most important step is: What can I do today to feel good? What is the next best thought I can think right now? And that often helps.
If we simply do something: What makes my heart sing right now? What would I really like to do? Then we enter a new vibrational frequency, which allows us tolook around ina completely different way. We make completely different decisions and see completely different possibilities.
Everyone knows this: when you're depressed or frustrated, you often can't see the wood for the trees, and the moment you fall in love, or when wheneverything is going well, you see things that you didn't even see before. And you can take advantage of that by simply saying: OK, what can I do now to fall in love with my life a little? What could bring me joy now? And then I can let myself be surprised by the new possibilities that open up.

So, I'd like to repeat that again now. You said:"What is the next best thought I could have??" Und I think that's something that a lot of people then really forget. That it's just a thought:"I can't afford it."
And you said earlier:"Yes, but if I go to the market, then I can afford it." Or maybe if I go shopping somewhere where you can either buy in largersbuy in larger quantities. I have it also myself that I have been to the market, shortly before the end, thats many dealers said,"Oh come on, Igiveyou two for the price of one"because they just wanted to get rid of their goods.
So, if you are creative, you can always find opportunities. For example, there is a farm near us,where you can help out;almost one Saturday a month - I think you can really sign up there, depending on how much you can help - and then get goods in return.
There are so many creative solutions, but if you only focus on what you can't afford, then you don't even get the idea. That's why I found it really nice to simply ask myself: What's the next best thought I can think right now?

Uta: That's activemindset again, that's when we're thinking.Then I can make a better decision, then I can do something better and my result will be better. It all goes together so wonderfully.

Yes, exactly. Is that also the way you work? When people come to you and say:"Uta, I want to earn more money." How do you approach a project like that?

Uta: I work with self-employed women. We always startwith their vision for their life. What is it that really makes her happy?She can then connect with the version of herself that lives exactly the lifeshe wants. Then she also realizes: She's not much different from me. She is perhaps a little lighter, she has different thoughts, she feels better. But it'sstill her in her essence.
And from there, we then look at what the next steps are that need to be taken. What changes are necessaryin my mindset today compared to where I want to be? How can I implement them? How can I change my habits? How can I change my thoughts? What steps do I need to take? What blind spots are there where my client may not yet realize what she needs to do?
And then I love to work very specifically. I then really work with the women on the business, what needs to be implemented now, so that the turnover is really significantly higher than before. And hopefully with less work and a lot more fun. The idea is that we can achieve this through the newmindset, the new way of thinking, the new actions and the other decisions. But it always starts with your own desire: Who do I want to be? Where do I want to go? That is always the basis for me.
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Yes, I agree with that, by the way. Especially when it comes to gut health. If I don't knowsswho I want to be and where Iwhere I want to gothen it's incredibly difficult to eat healthily in the long term. Most of the time it is then a case of doing it with your head:"Yes, I should take care of my bowels because that's what the doctor said." These arehead decisions that don't come from the heart.
Imay be disciplined for two, three or four weeks, but at some point there comes a pointat which I fall out again because my discipline wanes or because something happens:wecause I might go on vacation, or because I move house, or because my child has failed an exam.
There are the wildest things come up where people say:"Yes, I was actually eating healthily, but then this and that happened and then I couldn't do it any more." But if it comes from within and youexactly knowss: Who do I want to be? Wwhere do I want to go? Dhen I can continue to take good care of myself even in a moment of crisis.

Uta: It's about being likemy futureself now. Because they do all the things I want them to do. And then our habits become ingrained and we have a newmindset. It's always funny to me when people say:"Oh, you need amillionairemindset..." If I don't know who I want to become, I need to work on mymindset data-contrast="auto"> nothing at all,because: what do I want to change? I don't even know what? So, the most important thing is always to know: Who do I want to be?
Everything buildson that. Otherwise everything else is piecemeal.Then you can do a bit here or there, but without this crucial question: Who do I want to be?... And that changes again and again.It's a wonderful process.

And would you also say that not everyone has to be a millionaire?

Uta: In our language, millionairejust means that I have a million in my bank account. But that doesn't actually say anything at all.I know enough millionaires who have the feeling that they are poor. They were completely trapped in lack and they were completely unhappy and consumed by lack, envy and fear, so I don't think the million says anything at all.
I think it's much more important that we have a fulfilling life andthat we do the things we want to do and notmake it dependent on money to do them.I'm talking aboutfinancial freedom, and that has less to do with my bank balance and more to do with being able to do the things I want to do and be who I want to be. If that includes having a million in my bank account, that's nice.But it's much, much more importantthat I can experience, do and feel the things Iwant to. And that's why I believe that we don't all need a million in our bank account.

Yes, exactly. And that concludessThe topic of the gut comes full circle. For me, the gut is really where health begins, and if I take care of my gut, my roots, how I stand in life, then I can live my life the way I want to without my body constantly holding me back and slowing me down.
Because - just like you said at the beginning - if I'm constantly in pain, and I don't tackle things because I'm in pain - maybe I don't want to go out with people, maybe I don't want tono bigsa big trip, etc.That meanssI can't live my life the way I want to if I'm not healthy. And that concludessthe circle closes again and, that you actually - no matter which way you look at itview - you end up back there again: Wow can I live the way I would like to?? Und then flowsseverything flows to me.

Uta: That's right. I see it that way too. What is my fulfilled life? Pony farm! What would my life be like if I could wish for anything?I wish for everything and then we'll see. ThenI'llstrivefor that.

Yes, exactly. And then I don't think about all the things that could stop me, but then I look for the"next best thought"that takes me a little furthergets me a little further.


Where do I want to go?


I think you also believe that you don't have to have the whole strategy thought through to the end - how to get there - but that you just have to take the first step to get a little closer. Right?

Uta: Yes. I take the first step, then I take the second. I don't need to know the fifth yet. I can only take the next one anyway. So in principle, it's enough if I alwaysknow the next step. The main thing is that Iknow where I want to get to. That's important. I should know my goal, but the steps in between ... I just need to know the next step. That's how I see it for myself.

I think that's somethingthat very often holds us back, especially in our culture. Yes, I knows I don't know all the steps yet, so I don't even set off.

Uta: I always have this image: you're standing in a parking lot for hikers and you'd like to climb that mountain peak, and then I leave the parking lot for hikers and Iknow: I want to get to the top of the mountain back there, but I can't see the whole route. I can maybe see thefirst 100 meters in the forest, and then once again I can't see anything.Then I turn a corner, and then maybe I can see another 200 meters,but I have no idea what's in between. All Iknow is that I want to get to the summit and then I just set off. The restthen becomesclearas I walk.
Then there are one or two surprises. Then there's the nice hut on the side of the path, with delicious cheesecake...

To sum up, I think we can say that intestines and money definitely have parallels, especially the approach to the whole thing. And the inner process that is necessary, to achieve the optimum. Can you perhaps summarize it like that?

Uta: Yes, I also think that the two have a lot to do with each other and that they are linkedby the waywe are shaped from an early age. We are shaped by how we approach both topics.That we are probably much less free in the thoughts we have about our health, our diet and our money than we might think.

It is said that 90 percentof our thoughts are determined by our subconscious and only about 10 percent by our conscious mind.. Therefore I also believe that there are still a lot of stories inside us that we are not even aware of.

Thank you very much for the very inspiring conversation. I hope that one or two of you have found yourself there a little bit, in these trains of thought, and that this might be the impetusss to take furthertofurther. If anyone would like to know moreabout ithow can they find you and how can you support them?

Uta: I am on Facebook, LinkedIn, and on my pagewww.uta-nimsgarn.de to find me. I have a"moneyMindset club" for women who like to deal withmindset. I also support and accompany women 1:1in the mastermind coaching sessions. These are 1:1 coaching sessionsfor those who really want to get ahead.Whatismy money affirmation no. 99:"I only work half as much and earn twice as much."
These money affirmations can be foundon my website. Positive thoughts. If you are looking for the next best thought and have no idea, maybe there is one here.

Thank you very much and I look forward to our next conversation. I think it's important to keep getting inspiration and alsothat you surround yourself with people who take you a stepbring you further. Also,that you make sure that the five people, who are around you and who have a particular influence on you, also in go in a similar direction as youyourself.
Uta: Thank you for allowing me to be there, and thank you for accompanying me on my journey for so long.That is very valuable and important to me, and I consider myself very, very lucky to see and meet you from time to time and exchange thoughts again, because that really is very valuable. Thank you!
Yes, I feel the same way.

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